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In light of the recent release of Matt Reeves’ film The Batman, we consider the strange alternation of darkness and camp that is Batman. Is he even a super hero? What’s with his rogues’ gallery? What’s with DC’s anti-world-building?

Your Pretty Much Pop host Mark Linsenmayer is joined by philosophy prof/NY Times entertainment writer Lawrence Ware, improv co*edian/educator Anthony LeBlanc, and Marketing Over Coffee host John J. Wall, all of whom are deeply immersed in the co*ics, and we touch on other recent shows in the Batman universe.

Some relevant articles include:

• “Batman Actors Ranked from Worst to Best” from Den of Geek


• “All the Batman Movies, Ranked” by Eliana Docterman


• “The Best Order to Watch All the Batman Movies” in by Austen Goslin


• “The Top 27 Best Batman co*ics and Graphic Novels” from IGN


• “5 Things ‘The Batman’ Got Right And 3 Things It Got Wrong” by Haley Petersen

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